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10 Commandments in the NT

February 22, 2010

For those who claim that the 10 Commandments weren’t reiterated in the New Testament, please see this article:

Ten Commandments

Mr. Cogwriter says it all.  There goes that argument.

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19 Comments leave one →
  1. February 22, 2010 9:02 pm

    hahaha…SDA “scholarship” never ceases to amaze me.

  2. February 22, 2010 9:04 pm

    I can link to pages too – http://www.letusreason.org/7thAd9.htm

    “There goes that argument.”

  3. February 22, 2010 11:18 pm

    LOL. Only 2 references to the Sabbath in the Epistles? How about Hebrews 4:9 (Sabbatismos)? How about the Gospels? Kind of a double standard when you yourself use only TWO very questionable references throughout the WHOLE NT.

    • February 23, 2010 2:34 am

      I’m assuming that the guy who wrote that meant 4:9 as 4:4 doesn’t mention Sabbath. But yes, only twice in the Epistles.

      And what do the Gospels have to do with it? There were no Christians in the Gospels.

      • February 23, 2010 8:00 am

        No Christians? Isn’t is a Christian a follower or believer of Christ no?

      • February 23, 2010 11:58 am

        Nice”scholarship” you linked there. The guy meant Heb 4:4:

        4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;

        He missed Hebrews 4:9

        9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God.

        The word for rest is Sabbatismos, which literally means “Sabbath-keeping/observance”. Interesting how the writer he leaves that out.

        Also interesting how he has to narrow passages in his argument to ONLY the epistles. Why not include Acts and the Gospels? Is it because it renders his whole argument as baseless?

        He writes:

        “There is no record of Christians congregating outside the temple of Jews on the Sabbath, only in the temple”

        He must have missed Acts 16:

        13 And on the Sabbath day we went out of the city to the riverside, where prayer was customarily made; and we sat down and spoke to the women who met there. 14 Now a certain woman named Lydia heard us. She was a seller of purple from the city of Thyatira, who worshiped God. The Lord opened her heart to heed the things spoken by Paul. 15 And when she and her household were baptized, she begged us, saying, “If you have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come to my house and stay.” So she persuaded us.

        Besides, where would they meet? at the temple of Athena?! There were no church buildings back then, only synagogues. That’s why Paul in Acts 22 recounts how he used to persecute Christians at synagogues.

        19 So I said, ‘Lord, they know that in every synagogue I imprisoned and beat those who believe on You. 20 And when the blood of Your martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by consenting to his death, and guarding the clothes of those who were killing him.’

        He was talking about the events similar to Acts 9:

        1 Then Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest 2 and asked letters from him to the synagogues of Damascus, so that if he found any who were of the Way, whether men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.

        To say Christians didn’t meet at synagogues is irresponsible interpretation.

  4. February 23, 2010 2:37 pm

    Well you’d certainly be knowledgeable about “irresponsible interpretation.”

    I really like that there is an entire ministry dedicated to ex-SDA. Pretty sad that there is such a need:

    http://www.exadventist.com/Home/Sabbath/tabid/53/Default.aspx

    And then we have:

    http://www.founders.org/journal/fj68/article1.html
    http://reformedonline.com/view/reformedonline/sabbath2.htm
    http://www.covenanter.org/Steele/sabbath.htm
    http://www.letusreason.org/7thad18.htm
    http://www.koinoniablog.net/2010/01/sabbaths-and-sunday.html

  5. February 23, 2010 2:39 pm

    I’m lost at how you come to your conclusions. They just don’t connect.

    http://www.exadventist.com/Home/Sabbath/tabid/53/Default.aspx

    • February 23, 2010 3:50 pm

      Maybe you should reread it again. Nice try deflecting though. Can you get back to my original question, what constitutes a Christian? Were there NO “Christians” or followers of Christ during the Christ’s lifetime? So why don’t the Gospels matter like you claim?

      But since you must raise other issues, here:

      http://adventist-defense-league.blogspot.com/2007/11/critic-2-j-mark-martin.html

      http://adventist-defense-league.blogspot.com/2007/09/adventists-should-stone-their-members.html

      The stuff you raise isn’t new bro.

      • February 23, 2010 4:54 pm

        Correct. No Christians were present during Christ’s life. Unless, that is, you believe you can be a Christian without the Holy Spirit which didn’t arrive until Pentecost.

    • February 23, 2010 4:56 pm

      Bro? Look, I’ve already decimated all of your arguments. You refuse to interact with them. You conceded. Get over it.

      New? The SDA’s “teachings” are what is “new.” 2,000 years of Christian history prove that your “church” is dead wrong. You’d have us still be under the Law. Tisk tisk…I guess Christ’s death accomplished nothing.

      • February 23, 2010 5:24 pm

        LOL. Decimated? If by decimated you mean ignoring the arguments I present, and claiming your own information as right? Then sure, whatever makes you feel good.

        See Romans 14, you’re clearly wrong to read the Sabbath into the passage yet you still hang onto it, and claim that you’re right. That’s why I’m not going to WASTE my time addressing the rest of your posts, because you’re just going to HOLD onto your ideas.

        Quit flattering yourself when you think I haven’t responded because you think I “conceded”. I’m simply not responding because you’ve planted roots and there is no point in engaging in fruitless debate with you. (Matt 7:6)

        See above, you refuse to acknowledge that I’ve corrected you on “Christians” being alive at the time of Christ. What were the disciples/believers?? Followers of Christ. What is a Christian? A follower of Christ. Therefore, Disciples=Christians. 2+2 bro. Don’t be stubborn, you’re starting to argue against basic universal Christian truth now.

      • February 23, 2010 5:56 pm

        Dude, you clearly don’t understand. The Law doesn’t save, it points out your flaws/sins. If there is no Law, there is no sin. The Law is like a mirror, points out our flaws and drives us to Christ for salvation.

        To say there is no law is saying there is no sin in this world, and I hope you at least understand that.

        It’s interesting, you claim to be Reformed, yet you’re antinomian. Identity crisis?

        Interesting quote from R. Scott Clark of WTS Cali:

        http://heidelblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/heidelcast-3-jan-2010-which-is-worse-legalism-or-antinomianism/#comment-15327

        Or is he not a “Scholar” either?

  6. February 28, 2010 12:40 pm

    Folks, Glenn seems to think I don’t believe in any Sabbath at all. This is because he is ignorant. The Sabbath is on Sunday. I’ve said this feom the beginning.

    • February 28, 2010 12:53 pm

      These are your words Daniel:

      “What is remarkable is that the Sabbath is no longer a binding commitment for Paul but a matter of one’s personal conviction. Unlike the other nine commandments in Ex. 20:1–17, the Sabbath commandment seems to have been part of the “ceremonial laws” of the Mosaic covenant, like the dietary laws and the laws about sacrifices, all of which are no longer binding on new covenant believers (see also Gal. 4:10; Col. 2:16–17). However, it is still wise to take regular times of rest from work, and regular times of worship are commanded for Christians (Heb. 10:24–25; cf. Acts 20:7).” [emphasis mine]

      “The old covenant observances pointed to a future reality that was fulfilled in Christ (cf. Heb. 10:1). Hence, Christians are no longer under the Mosaic covenant (cf. Rom. 6:14–15; 7:1–6; 2 Cor. 3:4–18; Gal. 3:15–4:7). Christians are no longer obligated to observe OT dietary laws (“food and drink”) or festivals, holidays, and special days (“a festival…new moon…Sabbath,”), for what these things foreshadowed has been fulfilled in Christ.”

      You were arguing that Christians no longer need to observe the Sabbath. Now you do a complete 180. When you spin a web of mistruth, your story will eventually get tangled bro.

    • May 3, 2010 4:46 pm

      I care not to argue, but in to help out if I may… The Bible makes a contrast, a separation between SUNday and the Lord’s day, the Holy Sabbath. It is written:

      And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on. And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment. Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. | Luke 23:54-Luke 24:1

      Separation, not a blend 😉 No where in the Bible is SUNday called the Sabbath. This fact, must be acknowledged, and then a decision made. Allegiance to the LORD of the Sabbath? Or, to a counterfeit?

      • May 3, 2010 5:02 pm

        Thanks for the input. I’ve been trying to make that crystal clear all this time. Sometimes their ideologies get precedence over the truth. That’s the only reason one argues for something that isn’t defensible i.e. Sunday is the Sabbath.

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