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CARM Contradiction

January 28, 2010

A friend of mine sent me a link to this CARM article after seeing my recent post. The article was written to defend against Universalism:

http://www.carm.org/religious-movements/universalism/does-god-hate-anyone

He just wanted to highlight some contradictory statements.  As we know from our previous post on CARM, they believe the 4th commandment Sabbath is not valid or binding anymore.  Matt Paulsen from CARM even emailed me claiming Ephesians 2:15 abolished that Law.  (Note:  I emailed CARM asking them to change the reasons why they don’t recommend the SDA church, and hopefully come up with better reasons.  I felt they were irresponsibly misleading people with that section.  Matt Paulsen from CARM responded, but not in the friendliest of tones.)  But here, they write something about the 10 Commandments, and I quote:

God’s Law is Perfect

When God said, “Let there be light,” it happened. When He commanded that the oceans be, they came into existence. God’s word is powerful. What He says is never futile, empty, or without power.

The Law is a reflection of God’s character. It is pure and perfect. It is powerful. The Ten Commandments reflect God’s holiness and justice. These commandments are not without punishments. A law without consequences is only an empty slogan.

To sin is to break God’s Law and offend His character. To sin means to challenge His character and authority. It means you go against His word. But God is not a liar. His word is true. He has said He will punish the lawbreaker.

The following is a quote from Matt’s email to me.

Read and study Eph 2:15 “Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace…”

Please take note of the word “abolished.”

Seems like CARM is picking and choosing doctrines to suit its needs.  How convenient.  So what is it CARM, are the 10 Commandments still valid?  You can’t have it both ways.  I know my Bible is inspired because it doesn’t contradict itself.  Using that logic, I’ll paraphrase John 11:10; because of CARM’s recent stumbles, the is no light in it.

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3 Comments leave one →
  1. January 29, 2010 11:02 am

    How can I make you understand what Jesus did on the cross? As I said before study Eph 2:15 and try to figure out how the law and ordinances of the Old Testament (613 laws) were abolished.

    • January 29, 2010 12:53 pm

      How can I make you understand the blatant contradiction here?

      By your statement, I’m assuming that you’re saying the 10 Commandments were abolished. Let’s assume that’s the case. Why would you guys then have the position above, in “God’s Law is Perfect” use the 10 commandments as a guideline for Universalists?
      Is CARM an all you can eat buffet of theologies where you pick and choose texts to suit your taste?

  2. January 30, 2010 8:09 pm

    The 10 Commandments are reflective of God’s righteousness. They’re a manifestation of God’s character. And so God has not changed for he is immutable. If God wants to be worshiped ever, he wants to be worshiped always.

    The only one of the 10 Commandments that is not a moral commandment is the one regarding the Sabbath day. This, however, is an OT standard. In the NT, all other 9 commandments are repeated but this one is left out.

    The Sabbath has been fulfilled in Christ (Matt. 5:17). There is no longer an obligation to keep the Sabbath. Jesus emphasizes in Mark 2:27 that man is not to be confined by the Sabbath but rather that the Sabbath is given as a gift to man (for spiritual and physical refreshment).

    We worship on the Lord’s Day, that is, the first day of the week (Acts 20:7), the day that Jesus rose from the dead. We have entered into God’s rest. We have the reality and we don’t need the symbol (e.g. circumcision).

    The other 9 commandments are still reflective of godly virtues that should be manifest in the life of a true Christian. Our relationship to God should still be one of worship and honor and to one another a relationship of holiness without lying, killing, coveting, etc.

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