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Questions for Sunday Keepers

November 11, 2009

This is a list of questions compiled by my friends at the Adventist Defense League.

1. If the Sabbath is “against us and contrary to us” as they claim Colossians 2:14 states, why does the Lord himself (in Isaiah 58:13-14) say we should consider it “a delight, the holy of the Lord, honorable”?

2. The words of Jesus in Mark 12:29-31 (“thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength” and the second Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself “) have been so-called “the laws of Christ” and have supposedly usurped the Ten Commandments. However, these same words are found in Deuteronomy 6:4, 5 and Leviticus 19:18 so why did we need the Ten Commandments if we already had these so-called “laws of Christ” already spoken?

3. Sunday keepers always want hard facts from Sabbath keepers by asking us questions like “Why was the Sabbath not mentioned after Genesis 2:2-3 until Exodus 16?” and “Why was the Sabbath command not repeated in the New Testament?” but if you ask in return for a hard fact about where is the commandment for Sunday anywhere in the bible all you get is bewildered looks.

4. Exodus 20:2 reads “I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.” The dispensationalist often refers to the Ten Commandments as “bondage”. So are they going to have me believe God brought them out of bondage just to place them under more bondage? Huh?

5. The children of Israel were commanded some 613 laws between God and Moses Doesn’t the very fact that they’re called the TEN Commandments tell anyone that they are a separate code of laws from the rest? Why say ten if they are “the same as the others”? See Deuteronomy 4:13, 14; 2 Kings 21:8; 2 Chronicles 33:8?

6. Dispensationalist will tell you that the Ten Commandments were the old covenant but in the book of Hebrews (9:7) we find that the old covenant needed replacing for being faulty (the fault spoken of was found with the people and not the law vs. 8). Are dispensationalist prepared to argue that God wrote and spoke something faulty? (HINT: Don’t go there.)

7. “Christians” have ALWAYS worshipped on Sunday and NEVER on the Sabbath? Someone was taking a nap in religious history class! History of Sabbath

8. John 17:4 says: “I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.” Could Jesus make this statement if he still had to “teach” Sunday observance by rising on that day? Is he a liar? (Again, don’t go there.)

9. The gospel commission in Matthew contains this…”Teaching them all that I have commanded” and Jesus commanded the Ten Commandments (Matthew 5:19, 19:17-19. Did Jesus command Sunday?

10. The gospel writers penned their books decades (most scholars say 70 AD or later) after the cross but none of them felt compelled to tell us about a new day of worship? Strange indeed.

11. Again, Luke (23:56) writes about the”…Sabbath according to the commandment” but why say this decades later if the Sabbath is no longer a commandment?

12. If the Ten Commandments are the old covenant then how do they explain away Exodus 19:3-8 which is a covenant made and agreed to a full three days before they (the law) are even given by God?

13. If there was no law before Mount Sinai, why does God say in Genesis 26:5 “Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws”? In the book ok Genesis both moral (6th 4:8-15; 1st 35:2-4; 7th 39:7-9; 10th 25:29-34…and more) and ceremonial (4:4; 22:8-10, 31:54; 46:1) laws are mentioned.

14. If there is no law before Sinai, doesn’t God have a lot of apologizing to do to Adam & Eve, Cain, the whole world (flood), Sodom and Gomorrah, and even SATAN HIMSELF (cast out of heaven. Why?)? Weren’t they sinners? What is sin? (1 John 3:4, see also Romans 4:15)

15. Why do Sunday advocates insist Jesus broke the Sabbath to diminish it’s importance when Jesus himself states in John 15:10 “….even as I have kept my Father’s commandments.”? Is Jesus a bald-face liar? (once again, don’t go there)

16. In the gospels & Acts the Sabbath and the synagogue are synonymous with each other 11 times and yet the “2 proof texts” given in the new testament say nothing of a place of worship, why’s that?

17. With the practice of circumcision being very important to Jews, it is refuted over 40 times in the New Testament but not the Sabbath day meetings held all through the books of acts. We remember how rabidly the Pharisees attacked Jesus over the issue of the Sabbath. So why does Paul NOT ONCE chide them on the Sabbath issue and where is their anger over it in the New Testament writings?

18. If early Christians were already worshipping on Sundays then why didn’t the Jews raise a commotion about that like circumcision? Again, Paul never rebukes anyone for keeping the “old Jewish Sabbath”

19. Why don’t ANY New Testament writers denounce the Sabbath? Don’t they know there’s a “new day of worship”?

20. If the Sabbath is Jewish, why does God (through Isaiah in the 56th chapter) encourage “the sons of the stranger”, meaning gentiles, to keep it? (See also Exodus 20:8-11 for the same “stranger” reference)

21. If the Sabbath is Jewish only then why does Luke (the gentile doctor) refer to “nation of the Jews,” “the people of the Jews,” “the land of the Jews,” and the “synagogue of the Jews.” (Acts 10:22; 12:11; 10:39; 14:1) and never “sabbath of the Jews”?

22. Since God is all powerful (Job 42:2) and all knowing (1 John 3:20), why didn’t God change the law and prevent sin so Christ wouldn’t have to die?

23. If the Sabbath no longer exists because no one is stoned for breaking it, what about some of the other commandments that the Lord prescribed a death penalty for like the third (Leviticus 24:16), fifth (Exodus 21:17), sixth (Numbers 35:16), seventh (Leviticus 20:10)? Will we throw these out, too?

24. If the meaning of “fulfilled” in Matthew 5:17 means do away with the law, what about Matthew 3:15 that states Jesus must be baptized in order “for us to fulfil all righteousness”. The Greek word “plēroō” (play-ro’-o) is the same word in both texts translated “fulfill”. So are we “doing away with” righteousness and baptism?

25. If Luke 16:16 tells us the “law and the prophets” were meant to be of no more value when John the Baptist came along, why is it read from in Acts 13:15, and declared as Paul’s rule of faith and practice in Acts 24:14?

26. If Psalm 118:22-24 is supposed to be a messianic prophecy predicting Sunday sacredness because of the resurrection of Christ then why does the New Testament never mention Sunday as a sacred day in connection with Christ’s resurrection?

27. It says in 1 Chronicles 17:27 that once the Lord blesses something it stays blessed “forever” so doesn’t that mean the Sabbath remains blessed today? Where’s the text showing God un-blessing the Sabbath.

28. If the Ten Commandments were abolished by Christ then why does Isaiah 42:21 (a messianic prophecy) state “….he will magnify the law and make it honorable”? Shouldn’t it say he’ll take them out of the way?

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5 Comments leave one →
  1. Luke permalink
    November 13, 2009 9:28 am

    ADL does a fantastic job! See also:

    http://everlasting-gospel.blogspot.com/

  2. November 16, 2009 1:46 pm

    Hi, I was just cruising blogs on Sabbath as I just blogged about this topic. The first Christians, the Jews, met up on the 1st day. They still went to temple/synogogue and had to wait until Sabbath was over to meet up. Here’s my blog post on that.

    http://fruitoftheword.com/2009/11/16/sabbath-saturday-or-sunday/

    That all being said, I attend a messianic congregation that observes Sabbath but they recognize that Christians who meet on Sunday are not violating any commandment. Romans 14 takes care of that as well as the first Jewish Christians meeting on the 1st day.

    Peace

  3. Robert Xavier permalink
    February 2, 2010 2:19 pm

    Answers to the Adventist Defense League:

    1. In my understanding, “the handwriting of requirements” in Colossians 2:14, is not referring to the Law of God, but the punishment the Law requires of us, for our Sins. Verse 13 provides perspective, in that it ends with & leads into verse 14 with, “having forgiven you all trespasses,” which then clarifies that “the handwriting of requirements that was against us” in verse 14, which Jesus saved us from, is the punishment we earned through our sins, under the Law.

    Furthermore, verse 16, which some use to deny the weekly Sabbath, is clearly referring to laws held under the Old Covenant; not God’s Sabbath commandment, found all over the world in over 150+ countries & languages.

    Food, Drink, Festivals, New Moons & sabbathS (plural), are all Old Covenant stipulations which God never asked of the World, only His people. Also, verse 17, “which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.” clearly identifies these things as Old Covenant stipulations; as they foreshadow the Life of Jesus; only found in the Old Covenant.

    Therefore, Colossians 2:14 cannot be used to deny God’s Blessing,
    our ONE day of rest, guaranteed to us by God Himself.

    ps. Let’s not forget God’s command in Exodus 20
    Verse 9 – Six days you shall labor and do all your work,

    God commands us to work 6 days a week, not 5, which is why I work Sunday to Friday.
    Nevertheless, we only work 8 hours, so there is still plenty of time to join the congregation afterward or early in the morning; as Jesus did.

  4. Robert Xavier permalink
    February 2, 2010 2:37 pm

    Answers to the Adventist Defense League: Question 2.

    In my understanding, the Great Commandment & the second which is like it, are a summary of the attitude with which we should live. Those two commandments are WHAT we should do, the Ten Commandments, are chief amongst commandments in instructing us on HOW to do it.

    If not for the Law, how would we even know what is Sin..?
    Our nature is to sin, it comes naturally to us. So without the Law we would think, “as long as I don’t break the government’s laws, then I haven’t sinned.” But we all know, the Government’s laws serve the Rich & the Wicked. After all, Abortion is legal; and do you know why?

    Not because politicians care about women’s rights,
    but because they don’t want their mistresses & prostitute to carry their child.
    Rich men serving themselves.

    Such an elementary contradiction, it’s almost not worth reconciling, except for the benefit of Newly Born Again Christians, who have not yet lost their First Love 🙂 God Bless You.

  5. Robert Xavier permalink
    February 2, 2010 3:12 pm

    Answers to the Adventist Defense League: Question 3.

    “but if you ask in return for a hard fact about where is the commandment for Sunday anywhere in the bible all you get is bewildered looks.” – Hahahahaha… (:P) …so funny 😉 Anyway…

    Exodus 16 itself is evidence that the Sabbath Commandment is Pre-Mosaic Covenant.
    23 …’Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a Holy Sabbath TO THE LORD.

    Also, the Sabbath commandment was repeated, in that it was Upheld; in two ways.
    Jesus came to correct & clarify the Law for us. So in what He said & what He didn’t say, we can find clarity of the Law.

    When confronted about breaking the Sabbath, twice (healing & eating grain) Jesus clarified our understanding of the Sabbath Law, but never removed it; though those were perfect opportunities for Him to do so. Also, His disciple Mary, who knew Him & Loved Him, continued to keep the Sabbath, even in tending to His dead body. This tells me, that Jesus never took the Sabbath away.

    As for Biblical support for those who keep Sunday as the Sabbath. There is none. Saturday is the Sabbath. But there is support for Church services on Sunday, rather than on the Sabbath.

    True, that the Rabbis gathered in the Synagog on Sabbath & the people came to listen; but True Church service, as instituted by God’s Holy Spirit working through the Apostles, was held on the first day, to celebrate the Resurrection of the Lord God Jesus Christ.

    Acts 20:17 – (Came together to Break Bread)
    1st Corinthians 16:7 – (Tithing at Church)

    So, though it is not a commandment, that we have Church on Sunday, just as there is no commandment that we have Church on the Sabbath, it is the practice of the Apostles to have Church on Sunday; a practice which has survived even to this day & will continue till Jesus comes back.

    In fact, I submit that holding Church services on Sabbath encourages people to break the Sabbath to get to Church; through causing others to work as Bus Drivers, Taxi Drivers & Traffic Control Officers, for those who drive themselves.

    Church services should be held on Sunday Night, that is after Saturday’s sun goes down;
    as we can then go from Worshiping the Lord & Studying His Word with His Holy Spirit in our homes on the Sabbath, to join the Congregation at Church once the Sun has gone down, thus Sunday night, the first night of the week.

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